(laughs) Its my monster of sorts. CINDY: On. FLOTHE: Um hmm. CINDY: Yes, its real Hell yeah, Im bothered by it. At an APD station, She explains to detectives that she was abducted and repeatedly raped. The Butcher Baker passed away of natural causes in August of 2014, he lived to be 75 years old. (inaudible) What made you want to do it? So its early in the morning "When you kill that many women there's a good chance you may have killed some convict's girlfriend," said Bob Spinde, who was in charge of prisoner records. CINDY: Cause they told me, the police officers had told me when we went to the hospital. (inaudible) The horns that were up there, the big ol antler horns, theyre called. Then they would meet. We should all help each other out and give love to everyone as much as possible. We recently landed an exclusive interview with Hudgens who talked about her reaction when she first read the script, how meeting the real Cindy Paulson helped inform her portrayal of the character, why it was important to her that audiences see Paulson as a real human being and not a stereotype, what she learned from working with experienced actors like Cage and Cusack who inspired her performance, how Walkers enthusiasm and energy kept the atmosphere on set upbeat despite the dark subject matter, and what she discovered about herself in the process of making the film. Handle was brown. FLOTHE: This car that was in the driveway how new or old was this car? He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. Robert Christian Hansen (the Butcher Baker) and the Delphi Murde FLOTHE: Did you give him your phone number or did he write it down on something? Its another fun, more light-hearted character that the audiences have never seen me do before. And hes about five six, weighs about 170 pounds. Glenn Flothe, AST. I chatted there with her a little bit and, uh, made an agreement with her that I was going to see her sometime. Hudgens: Its interesting that actors put themselves in a place where they can feel so hurt and feel so much pain. Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group. Her eventual getaway was central to Hansen's ultimate capture and confession to the murder of dozens of women. CINDY: It was about maybe four in the morning, three-thirty in the morning. In the 1960s he moved to Anchorage and opened a bakery of his own in a strip mall at Ninth Avenue and Ingra Street. FLOTHE: Friday morning. The others were never located. And it was just the usual chitchat, you know, asking, you know, got in the car and asked, how you doing and so forth and whether I was looking for a good time and so forth. I personally loved it. Im not going to help you do that, all right? FLOTHE: Where did he park the car? At the motel, police found 17-year-old Cindy Paulson, still handcuffed, huddled fearfully in a room. Often the family of these killers catch a ton of hell from the public, how could they possibly share their lives with a monster and not know it? He seemed really like a pretty good guy. CINDY: The same person. She also discussed her fun cameo in Machete Kills and her upcoming films, Gimme Shelter and The Kitchen Sink. FLOTHE: Were the handcuffs tight? And that, um, I was lucky because usually the other ones stayed a week. Was it fun watching them go toe to toe? Alaska serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed as many as 21 women, died Thursday at an Anchorage hospital. On June 13, 1983, Cindy Paulson was kidnapped and raped, her life threatened by Robert Hansen. FLOTHE: Did he approach you or did you approach him? CINDY: Uh huh. CINDY: Yes, directly. Anchorage's jail is one of the state's only correctional facilities with a medical unit. Kids can be so cruel; while the boys his own age poked fun of and beat on him, the girls all laughed about how ugly he was. The killer received a 461-year sentence in February 1984, pleading guilty to four of the murders. CINDY: And then up here to where I was starting to get it off. Kyle Hopkins is special projects editor of the Anchorage Daily News. After hed heard what Cindy had to say, Glenn knew a few things to be true. There are 30+ professionals named "Cindy Paulson", who use LinkedIn to exchange information, ideas, and opportunities. Hudgens: I wanted her to be a normal teenage girl. Let's get it straight: "My wife befriended Cindy for months at all hours of the night and morning without ever meeting her until two days before she was to testify against Hansen. A one-stop-shop for all things video games. So its immoral to make snap judgments about people. CINDY: I believe it was right there right across from the Sheraton on Fifth and Denali. Her ability to accurately describe every detail of her ordeal was crucial to establishing her credibility as a witness. Do you remember what hes driving on Friday? FLOTHE: You drove past the house? Healthy mother-of-two, 32, collapsed and died from brain bleed while she led fitness bounce class, Taking Vitamin D each day could cut your chances of getting dementia, study claims. He was also an avid hunter. And so I gave him my telephone number And he was going To be frank, honest, I was asking him for change for a cigarette machine. Do not sell or share my personal information. John Paulson. I operated behind a work persona. I was kinda trippin I really thought (inaudible) We are all the same. CINDY: Thats it. All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and theres no telling how much longer he wouldve lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of 83. CINDY: Yeah, but then again one seat looks the same. It became very accessible to me. Hansen confessed to authorities that he had killed 17. In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansen's house on Old Harbor Road. If hed just murdered those women, they couldnt have turned him in, and he wouldnt have been in trouble not committing violent crimes was never an option. We all have the same needs. You see, when we was driving I observed everything. They searched his plane, home and car and found he had some items, including jewelry, that had belonged to the women. Its going to have to be a little bit vague on that. CINDY: I gave him the number at the Big Timber. FLOTHE: Two hundred dollars is a lot of money It must also be mentioned that she and the children were constantly insulted and belittled by Robert, and it wouldnt be surprising to learn that he was physically abusive; there may have been some trauma bonding there as well. As of 5:30 Saturday afternoon theres a new article available. FLOTHE: And then he contacted you on Saturday. It was smooth. 37 Cindy Paulson Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images CREATIVE Collections Project #ShowUs Creative Insights EDITORIAL VIDEO BBC Motion Gallery NBC News Archives MUSIC BLOG BROWSE PRICING ENTERPRISE VisualGPS INSIGHTS BOARDS CART SIGN IN Images Images Creative Editorial Video Creative Editorial FILTERS CREATIVE EDITORIAL VIDEO Even though we were filming something that was so heavy and tough to come to work for every day, he had this enthusiasm and energy about him that was just so upbeat and lighthearted, so that even though it was serious, you felt excited and safe. But he had brown socks on. How did talking to the real Cindy Paulson inform that process? I was just I was hysterical and shocked, didnt know what to do, he was chasing after me with a gun. FLOTHE: Six in the evening? 17-year-old Cindy Paulson ran away from Hansen in 1983 as he was trying to load her into his plane and "take her out to his cabin," presumably a euphemism for the vacant Alaskan wilderness where he gunned down his victims. I just wanted to make her as full-hearted as I possibly could. When he reached the Glenn Highway, he kept driving. FLOTHE: Uh huh. CINDY: OK. He would abduct the women and take them to remote places outside the city, sometimes driving them and other times he would fly his private plane. Im a little confused about when the airplane seat got in and out of the car. CINDY: A police officer at the Sixth Avenue police department. FLOTHE: When did he tell you this? In order to keep their witness close, the state trooper and his wife befriended the young survivor, then Glenn reached out to the FBI. "You could hear him screaming at his lawyers," Rothschild said. (pause) And, um, he took me to his house on Old Harbor Road in Muldoon. There was also a collection of newspaper articles about the killer and his missing victims, and a map with little X marks all over it which indicated where hed dumped his victims. Hudgens: Thats always been the goal. If Im unsure of something, I promise to tell you, and yall the dates in this case about drove me nuts. FLOTHE: I hope not. Since his release from the Iowan prison, Robert had been arrested more than once for crimes such as shoplifting, but somewhere around 71 and 72 he was arrested for having sexually assaulted both a sex worker and a housewife by the names of Patricia Roberts and Susan Heppeard. Thats not all he said, of course. And I said, Fine, no problem.. It was funny though, cause before, when he was getting ready to take me to his cabin, he said that, um, there had been seven other girls before me. CINDY: It wasnt painted. Jack Halcombe (Nicolas Cage), who convinces her to help him bring Hansen to justice. She is known for her incredible homemade bars that she shares with riders while they enjoy the scenic views of nature along the trail. Hansen likely would have continued to kill and escape justice if one of his intended victims hadn't escaped. I can tell you (inaudible) I can describe the plane to you. FLOTHE: And he contacts you at where? People either loved it or they hated it. Im sorry that these photos needed to be included, but we really cant discuss this particular serial killer without speaking of hunting. FLOTHE: Hairstyle? CINDY: I believe it was on a Friday and I gave him my telephone number and he called me on a Saturday. I overslept. On the floor instead there was an airplane seat. Others have never been found. I didnt know, there was, uh I I I couldnt see her that night cause it was during the week and Im running my bakery and I start there at 1:00 in the morning and, uh, she give me a phone number there for her at one of the motels. Did he give you a sense of what he wanted and then get out of the way and let you follow your instincts as an actor? CINDY: Some times they were. If she saw blood, well, that would also have made sense as her husband was a hunter. FLOTHE: He had an automatic garage door opener? And who showed you those pictures? FLOTHE: OK. CINDY: Uh huh. The many other women who fell into Hansen's grasp were flown into the alaskan wilderness, near the Knik River, where Hansen had a cabin. There. FLOTHE: What kind of boots? That seemed to be a common enough thing to do, plenty of troubled Americans had moved to Alaska to start a new life, and this worked out splendidly for Robert! When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. CINDY: Um, he had me chained around my neck for a time. I play Cereza which means Cherry in Spanish which says a lot about the character. CINDY: Hey, for a blowjob in the car, hell yeah. CINDY: Yeah. FLOTHE: Thank you. The infamous Special Agent John Douglas took a look at the case, and he informed the trooper that his perpetrator would likely have a stutter! I feel like women have an easier time separating from their characters than men do, honestly. Uh, FR: Would it have been during the time when your wife and children were out of. The avid hunter would strip his victim naked (often in subzero temperatures) and simply set her free. FLOTHE: How did you know that? Wonderful tram tour guide Cindy is starting her fourth year as a trail tram tour driver for MCRF. We all have the same needs. After he was convicted of committing murder, Darla finally let go of her marriage; she promptly divorced her husband, then she and the kids moved back to Arkansas to be with family. She Gets rescued By an patrol Officer. On June 13, 1983, Hansen offered 17-year-old Cindy Paulson $200 to perform oral sex; when she got into the car, he pulled out a gun and drove her to his home in Muldoon. His alibi - two friends - also admitted they had been lying. I looked in the back, OK, there was like a you know how seats in front have covers theyre metal? Eventually Robert did admit to having raped dozens, but would only confess to the murder of 17; he even lead police to the shallow graves of twelve more corpses. And brown socks. The woman tried to escape and he pulled out a gun, he said. Hansen served time briefly at Lemon Creek Correctional Center in Juneau until authorities found escape plans stashed among his belongings and sent him to Seward, officials said at the time. All Rights Reserved., https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/, Killers found not guilty by reason of insanity. CINDY: Um hmm. She would, of course, run like hell for her life, but the killer would track her down. Ever since I was young, I wanted to be in a role where I could play a prostitute or a drug addict, because its nice to be able to portray someone who is so far from you, which I love. He was really sweet. CINDY: He approached me. Hes amazing. Sometime between 71 to 73 Robert began to murder young women. For a man who had been a social outcast all of his life, it shouldve been an incredible feeling to finally be accepted; in his new town he opened his very own successful bakery with money obtained through an insurance scam, he and his new wife had a couple of kids, and Robert became a well respected member of society. Hansen didn't see his victims as human, the attorney said. Cindy had been with BC for 14 years (more than 30 years to date), managing a region and leading many projects when she felt something was missing. [Installment Three]. It shows just how desolate the area is, these poor women really didnt have a snowballs chance. FLOTHE: Did he point the gun at you at any time? CINDY: The garage was opened. Hudgens: It was so helpful. The Special Agent had known that this killer would be into collecting trophies from his victims, that he would have very little self worth, and that hed have a burning hatred for women you know, the usual type thing, but to pinpoint this killers stutter is truly astonishing! CINDY: They look the same. FLOTHE: An older car. FLOTHE: How did he get in? So the next day, which was Sunday (sniffles), I was on Fourth and Denali and this gentleman had been by and pulled in the parking lot and offered me, and I got in the car voluntarily, I was talking with this man and he offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car. One night she picked up a small, skinny client with a pock-marked face who wore glasses and spoke with a stutter. Robert Hansen is probably the most prolific serial in recent Alaskan history. Glenn Flothe, AST. CINDY: He has kind of darkish, brownish hair. Im just following my gut, and if its speaking to me, then Im doing it. I said I could meet him at ten or else at eleven. CINDY: He just drove by. "In his mind there were good girls and bad girls.". I actually shot that before I filmed this (The Frozen Ground) interestingly enough. FLOTHE: Would you draw me a diagram of the house and Ill turn the tape off just for a minute while youre doing that. Just his whole work ethic I found fascinating, so I jumped at the opportunity to be able to do something with him. FLOTHE: How about the glasses? And if Im not mistaken I think he had a green or a light t-shirt underneath it. View the profiles of people named Cindy Paulson. FLOTHE: Make sure you look through the whole book before you decide. Interesting stuff. When he was arrested for the sexual assaults, Robert had claimed to have been an innocent man, and she believed what hed told her; shed had her suspicions that her husband may have been a cheater who possibly enjoyed the company of an escort every once in a while, but a woman killer? This was a secretive killer who is believed to have taken half of his murders with him to the grave. And he had pulled out his wallet and showed me a whole bunch of money FLOTHE: I wanna show you six pictures, Cindy, and the person that were talking about may or may not be in here. All rights reserved. CINDY: Yeah. What was the most difficult scene for you to shoot and why? FLOTHE: Would you recognize this metal seat if you saw it again, do you think? CINDY: Same. CINDY: No. When it was time for Hansen to go to prison, his plea agreement included a request, according to accounts at the time: He would do his time outside Alaska. Or was it some other color? CINDY: Up to the house. Darla had truly believed that if she stuck it out, she could eventually talk Robert into going to church with her more often she thought that she could save the soul of the man shed vowed before God to love, and her marriage would be fixed as well. FLOTHE: So if youre unsure about something (Cindy coughs) just tell me, all right? Required fields are marked *. Be sure and look at all six. Youve taken on some very interesting, challenging roles lately in different genres like this film and also Gimme Shelter. CINDY: The Buick Century. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I really respect that. CINDY: Uh huh. (Sound of pages turning. I mean, man, what he did to me, he had to kill me. Hansen was convicted in 1984 after confessing to killing 17 women, mostly dancers and prostitutes, during a 12-year span in the 1970s and 80s. And that he had to work and he couldnt do it then. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Hansen grew up in Iowa, the son of immigrant bakers. FLOTHE: There is a kind of lightish scar there on your He was right to worry, state officials later said. 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