This is the setup that I have assembled two days ago. shades uses 2 connecting one ssr thru the other for steam. different wiring though. EN. Gaggia Babila. Trim, terminate and connect the wires you routed out the back of the Classic to the PID. Required fields are marked *. Do you think that REX-C100FK02-V*EN (designed for K-type thermocouple) is compatible with RTD (PT100) and is not going to create long-term problems with the machine/setup? I would not make it without you. Im all for freedom of expression and creativity, but not when it might electrocute someone. This gives the machine a whole new level of consistency, and gives you fine control over brew temperature. The PID itself draws very little current, so something like 18 gauge lamp cord would work. August 05, 2019, 11:46:38 PM . It seems the wiring varies even within model years, and between model regions. And anything is going to be a huge improvement over the thermostat that the PID replaces. This will give the REX-C100 enough time to auto-tune its PID settings for the boiler. I decided to go the do-it-yourself route, ordering the parts separately, at a fraction of the cost of the kits. I will monitor it over the next few days, but if the coffee takes good, and the only thing I notice is the warmer cup tray, Ill be fine with that, better in fact! Always work with the Classic unplugged. Unlike the 7200 model, this one does not have SSR inside. If so, any idea how it can be achieved? share. Or buy a machine with a built-in PID. save. Does anyone else have this kit? Even though the wires are insulated, as someone posted earlier, that metal is sharp and the vibration from the machine may eventually cause the insulation to fail and then your whole machine is a conductor. Set the cover and screws aside. For the Classic Pro, this requires either shortening the spring in the OPV valve through trial and error, or ordering a spring kit from Mr. Thread the thermocouple wire through to the back of the machine, and out the same slot as was used for the other wires. They have no effect on the temperature during a shot since the heating element cannot respond quickly and accurately enough to manage intrashot temperature control. I think Mr Shades has managed to do this using only cables because I dont think he instructs anything to void the warranty. Due to your kind and quick advice, I could order SSR40DA. Make sure that all the new and repositioned wires are cleanly routed away from the boiler and pump and any uninsulated connectors. 18 comments. Hi Rusty. We have an earth leakage wiring system in our house, but in many countries, these are not standard. The silver box is coated with clear anodized aluminum with a brush-finished stainless steel front panel. I just finished installing the PID hardware in my Classic Pro today. however the one SSR is nice and the modification gives upgraded steam with the solder mod. Ill dismantle on a cleaning weekend and test the thermocouple again. Does this mean that I have made the connection properly? Your Gaggia would be in steam mode by default, you would never have to switch on steam mode. Hey Chris, With a PID controller added to the heater control circuit, brew water temperature can be controlled to within 1 accuracy. Ive set the Sn value to pt for the PT100. Started by Rocky47, June 28, 2019, 01:16:33 PM. That is indeed not normal. I hesitate to identify wires by their color, as the wire colors in the Gaggia seem to vary from year to year and from region to region. My P value is quite a lot different than yours. Pull the steam wand up and out of the Classic, and set it aside. I wondered if you ended up testing both in the end. Power input. Converting CUSIP-6, CUSIP-8 and CUSIP-9 to ISIN in PHP, How to automatically block WordPress bot spam without a plugin, which I ordered as an inexpensive kit with a thermocouple and a solid state relay, PID installation in Gaggia Classic causing shortcircuits ColorMag, https://wiki.wholelattelove.com/File:GAGGIA_CLASSIC_2019_Wiring_Schematic.pdf, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UETVv0qgz-w, https://coffeeforums.co.uk/topic/53319-what-temp-offset-are-you-using-with-your-pid/, https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/195229/in-a-light-switch-how-can-i-tell-if-the-black-wire-is-really-hot-and-the-white, https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/owpfe7/i_made_a_lego_enclosure_for_rex_c100_pid/, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LODGP2E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1, https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4243840, https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4938828, https://www.reddit.com/r/gaggiaclassic/comments/l5tfcj/mr_shades_pid_installed_decided_to_mount_inside, https://calbryant.uk/blog/well-integrated-pid-temperature-control-of-a-gaggia-classic-espresso-machine/#better-temperature-regulation, https://www.vertex-qis.co.uk/Manuals/PT100_con.pdf, https://photos.app.goo.gl/8yPwJcEPDi1c5tfY7, https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xp37S3o3y6bqqrEk8, https://www.shadesofcoffee.co.uk/post-2018/gaggia-classic-2019ri9480power-switch-mod. Range: -1999 to 9999 (depends on the input signal) . Plug in a mains-rated cable connected to a piggyback spade connector, and then plug the original switched mains cable into the piggyback. At a minimum, I think you would need the following: I dont see piggyback connectors on Mr Shades list, maybe those are part of the set of wires, but its not clear. Hello. I did that exercise before installing the PID, behavior should be identical as that time. I have installed the supply cable for PID unit using piggyback spade connectors. Did you try with the SSR unit 40 DA or 40AA? Shall I change the P,I and D parameters manually and what is your suggestion to start with? Im so thankful for this. The Classics over-pressure valve (OPV) is set to 14 bars, which is a pressure better suited to the use of pressurized portafilters. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xp37S3o3y6bqqrEk8 The documentation showed the default settings as P:30 I:240 D:60, but after tuning they were P:37 I:50 D:12. I start to run the steam at about 130 in the heating cycle on my setup. Hi peeps, finally got all the bits n pieces to do the Pid, brew & steam mod on the gaggia, does anybody have any general instructions for putting this all together? If you are in the U.S. then mains voltage is 120V, which will not kill you (unless you have a pacemaker or are standing in a bathtub) but can give you a decent shock. The YouTube video from wll about replacing the boiler made the whole thing very easy. The installation is completely reversible if you ever want to sell the machine or send it to service. Double sided tape will work. 3. We ship every business day from our two warehouses located in Milton, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta. Shades uses an XMT7100 modified to run two SSRs: a DA for the brew temp and an AA for the steam temp. it does not matter if the bean is dark or light roast? $149.99 . Would you be able to post starting values for the PID kit please? You can buy them at Ace hardware for about twenty five cents each. I am beginning to suspect that Gaggia created as many combinations of wiring configurations and colors as they made machines. This would also allow you to switch to PID-controlled brew mode simply by lowering the PID temperature. . No extra button is needed to press for frothing. Hi Anton. I plan on doing the same thing as you did, bought both PID simply because the QB-T7100 is slimmer the case is readily accessible from mr. shades, compared to the higher cost of 3d printing a case for the REX. 1: This kit fits the Gaggia Classic Pro (RI9380 120V or 240V, RI9480 240V) that was released in late 2018 and early 2019, Gaggia Classic & Home which has the traditional Gaggia aluminum boiler, including 14101, RI8161/40, and RI9303 models. 5: The PID controller in this kit is NOT SYL-1512A. Feel free to hang out, learn a bit, meditate, ride a bike, or perhaps it's just time to move on. This product was added to our catalog on Tuesday 26 June, 2007. Thank you for making it. Just leave the SSR disconnected, or dont install it at all. Chris has done a great job on this write up and its easy to follow. Terrific write-up thank you for posting it! Thus brewing circuit needs to be connected directly to the heating element, not over steaming circuit. Try powering the PID directly from mains power, with just the thermocouple connected (disconnect the SSR). The steam mode has its own thermostat, which is very similar to the brew thermostat that the PID replaced, except that its temperature range is more or less as you described. Thanks, David. Display: Dual display for Fahrenheit(F) and Celsius(C) Main Feature. In mine, correct terminal was crosswise of yours. This PID-SSR combination does away with the 12v connection, and uses three wires for the mains power and SSR, with one wire shared between mains and the SSR output. The cup warmer does seem a bit hotter than before (but have only used twice since installing, so Ill have to pay attention). Hi Chris, thanks for the reply. I actually installed mine and then saw your thread, which is awesome to see other people using the same PID. My question is where did you place the SSR, is it near the water spout, right side or in the back if you are facing the front of the machine? Can the PID be put inside the machine or does size constraints and/or heat negate that option? Hi Gene. The PID is really converting the mains voltage to 12VDC both for its internal operation and to drive the SSR, so the PIDs draw is quite small. Without offset the range is between 109-159, still too low. Pull the two wires that you removed from the thermostat up to the top of the machine, near the rest of the wires that run from the front to the back of the machine. So I would say yes, you should use a heat sink, but the Gaggia body conveniently provides you with that function. Did you reverse any wires to the steam switch? Hi David. that will make it where only one SSR is needed. Useful link. Fortunately, no damage done, and you can easily revert your changes. These set the parameters and algorithms that monitor and control. Two different colors of the controller box are offered, silver and black. Thermocouple: J,S,K,E,Wre3 ~ Wre25 PID Retrofit KIT for Gaggia Classic European Model RI9403 [KIT-GGX-EU] Auber Instruments, Temperature control solutions for home and industry. UNBLOCKING. Warranty: 6-month limited warranty with a 30-day money-back guarantee is offered. The pump can be stopped at any time by pressing the ">" key a second time. I grabbed some screws from my parts bin, I took whatever I could find that was the same color as my filament, and that would fit the holes and hold reasonably well. Thank you for your time. It should work as a replacement for the C-100 and SSR, but because the SSR is built into the PID, so your wiring will be a bit different. Inside the GC, all bets are off as to wire colors, aside from green for ground, and even then, I wouldnt assume anything. Others have managed to also install the PID horizontally and cut out a hole in the side of the GC, but that still requires replacing the water filler funnel. Individually PID control parameters I think this is why using a separate SSR and controller is the only way to go. Unblocking Solenoid Valve-Classic and Baby. The kit includes all the parts and the materials to complete its function. Hope this helps. Accuracy: 0.2% Hi Ray. I have to turn the set point on the PID down to about 85C to stop it boiling and getting steam and a great deal of sputter out of the portafilter. I hope it helps some EU folks not spending extra hours on debugging this minor EU-US model difference . It has been working flawless for the most part, but seen a few issues that havent seen before. Did I miss any other kits? I also think that you may have less difficulty reaching the thermostat, the 2019+ models have a lot less room to spare inside. Same with the adapter screw. As the optimal brewing temperature is 90C to 96C depending on taste, this variance means the coffee can be over or under-extracted, or worse - variable. Id really love to do the install, however I have ZERO experience in electrical installation. I am not surprised that the steam kit made little difference. For the Gaggia Classic, taking into account the temperature drop between the boiler and the group head (5-8 degrees C), the PID target temperature should be set to about 103 degrees C or 220 degrees F at sea level. My problem is that since installing the mod, my machine gets way too hot and boils. Thanks! PID Kit for older plastic body Gaggia Classic. The same complexity applies to pressure control. These wires will be connected to the solid state relay later on, so they no longer need to be in the bottom of the machine. All other variables aside, once you get a temperature that gives you the results you want, you will be able to get those results again, and again. Hi Murat, I would not try anything without checking first. Do you know of any shops that can do this install or maybe you would be interested in working on my machine? When the ">" key is pressed, the controller starts the brewing sequence automatically. The PID switches the power to the boiler heating element on and off a lot more frequently than the original mechanical thermostat. But Ive downloaded the wiring diagram for my machine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoZuYaDq5yc, Thanks Jeff, thats a great video. the PWM needs a new wire to the where the pump wire was disconnected. I had no problem with my mod other than the stickers on the back of the PID were reversed, so the terminal markings were not correct. Approach 1: Follow my writeup, adapting it to your models peculiarities, and then set the PID temperature to your preferred steam temperature. I have a question on the pid, it is normal for the brew light to blink (off and) while it stabilizes to the target temperature. The fun of the PID is not just the great stability, but the ability to fine tune the brew temperature to your taste! It is suitable for other colored espresso machines. I hope you enjoy your upgraded GC as much as I do mine! Thus, it will significantly improve the taste and consistency of your espresso. (Markings can be found on front side of the plug) 2-Check the color of the cable which shows L sign on the plug- meaning Live. Hello Chris, Perhaps you are refering to the video by Damian Witonski. Wanted to double check here for some observations a about three months after installing the PID. You need a 85-250V DC model, as the power will be coming from the Classic, which is mains-level voltage. Not sure why that was the case. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LODGP2E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1, BOX You would probably blow the fuse in this controller/SSR within seconds. Remove the thermostat. 6. Do not undertake this procedure if you are not comfortable or uncertain. There is no 12v anywhere in the GCP, its all mains power inside. excluding VAT. I used lamp cord for this. If youre not comfortable installing this yourself, and taking on any followup maintenance, I think you would be much better off purchasing a machine that comes with a PID from the factory. https://photos.app.goo.gl/8yPwJcEPDi1c5tfY7 Like you I dialed my brew temperature in until I got the results I wanted, at that point it doesnt really matter if the temperature is calibrated or not, as long as it tastes great. Maybe then try QB-T7100 afterwards and if it works I will buy the external case which is sold seperately (QB looks nicer with small size and external case). (Gaggia Classic) I swear this is the last question I will ask today lol. Hi Chris, i noticed you used the K type thermocouple with the M4. Hi Chris it appears i can configure the BERM REXC-100 like this as i entered the settings after i enabled alarm 1. auber uses 1 SSR & is simple. When I turn off, it goes back to zero. Links. Replacing that wire= everything works perfectly now! Pressure control could be super nice to have. To do this, loosen the nut connecting the steam wand to the steam control assembly. Did you have any problems or stumbled upon anything unexpected? My theory at the moment would be that due to the PID control the heater is sometimes on at higher temperatures. This morning I pulled my first shot with the PID. Double check that this is the neutral! The way I wired the PID leaves it powered on as long as the main power switch is on. Wear a glove when reaching in from below, otherwise bloodletting is likely. What you describe looks very much like the steam thermostat cycle. Thanks for the PID info. This guide explains this well, and also explains what to do if your home wiring is not correct: https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/195229/in-a-light-switch-how-can-i-tell-if-the-black-wire-is-really-hot-and-the-white. K type thermocouple, 0-500, 2m cable (6 feet). Do not over-tighten the adapter, it only needs to be finger-tight. Hi Brian. In a properly wired North American outlet, the neutral wire is white, and the hot/load wire is black (ground is green). When the steam switch is turned on, the on/off temperature of the heater is controlled to 1 degree (F or C) difference as compared with the original thermostat's >10C (or 20F) difference. Indeed, not an option. Thanks. Thanks for your reply: I think you are correct about the Gc being stuck in steam mode, but I never touched the steam switchs wires and reverting the top/bottom swap on the power switch didnt solve the issue. But, I still get loads of steam and spray before it settles down. You can search on Reddit, a few people have made these modifications. 6 Reviews (6) $326.00. I am not sure exactly what you did when you moved the wires terminating on the bottom of the power switch. The steam mode drops to 102 before the power cycle kicks back in, with the valve open or closed. It should be the power/mains line that comes out of the main power switch, but before the boiler. This way you are not losing any pressure via the solenoid valve, you are just reducing the initial pressure to the puck by venting some of it through the steam wand. https://www.vertex-qis.co.uk/Manuals/PT100_con.pdf. For the Gaggia Classic, taking into account the temperature drop between the boiler and the group head (5-8 degrees C), the PID target temperature should be set to about 103 degrees C or 220 degrees F at sea level. Thanks for your time. If the thermocouple wire is too long, coil it up inside the machine, well away from the boiler or any uninsulated connections, using zip ties to hold the coil in place. Thanks. I will purchase the PID kit with thermocouple and SSR from aliexpress and buy these rest small items from Mr. Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic. Power supply : 90-265V AC/DC From what you describe, it looks the power wires for your PID are possibly tapped in-line with the boiler power? Its crazy. Ive tried connecting these in various combinations but the PV readout is 3 or 4. Monitor and display the boiler temperature precisely. Bliss. The C100 is probably made by dozens of different manufacturers. Glad this writeup helped. Hi Peter. Hi Brian. (Available for download after purchasing the kit. We bring fresh high-quality coffee to the masses. For espresso, 9 bars is the generally preferred pressure. Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic. 1. Which one shall we buy? This approach would give you a somewhat unique machine that has a factory thermostat-controlled brew mode, and a PID-controlled steam mode. Hi Chris, I appreciate your tutorials on the PID install. PID Retrofit KIT for Gaggia Classic Pro & Classic & Home PID Temperature Control Retrofit KIT for Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine [KIT-GG] - $149.50 : Auber Instruments, Inc., Temperature control solutions for home and industry Home :: Coffee Machine Kits :: PID Retrofit KIT for Gaggia Classic Pro & Classic & Home Coffee Machine Kits Product 4/21 Stock situation: Silver case : Last one or two!!! As for steam, the guide I wrote leaves the steam function completely untouched. I havent lowered brew pressure to 9 Bars yet so perhaps changing that would level out my pump pressures? on orders over $49. The two mains wires connect to terminals 1 and 2 (starting counter-clockwise from top-left). It would be almost impossible for me to give you a complete list of the parts from Mr Shades that you will need, as it will depend on the PID and SSR models you order. I double checked all the wiring (inside and outside of the chassis) and eventually came to the conclusion that I had a faulty PID. Does the PID generate enough heat to melt the Lego bricks? Hi Chris, For the melted connector plastic, thats a sign of either a wire or a connector that is carrying too much current for its rating, or most likely, a connection between the wire and connector that is not as solid as it should be. I should pointed out that the temperature ranges I was referring to were with the -8C offset on the PID. Monday - Friday: 10am - 4:30pm. Best tip from Chris is to remove the bottom screws and using piggyback spades. PWM dimmer for preinfusion Attach the solid state relay to the inside back wall of the Classic, using a small bolt and nut. The only suprise for me has been that installing steam kit did not help me much because brewing kit alone helped to have great steaming power by only watching temperature climb up to 150 degrees. Mounting Dimension: DIN: 1/16 (48mmX48mmX80mm) The A vs E should not make a difference as I am not using alarm function, and am using it with a 3-wire PT100. It is suitable for Gaggia Classic or other machines with a silver finish. Since installing the modification, I get a huge amount of steam and spray coming out of the portafilter when I first operate the pump so much so, that it sprays all over the worktop around the machine! Pull the cover assembly off by pulling upwards, and disconnect the ground cables. I dont own a multimeter. How do I ensure that Im tapping the neutral mains? This PID controller kit is designed to retrofit into the European Gaggia Classic espresso machines made after 2015 (model# RI9403). The PID works after hooking everything up. Otherwise, as I said in instructions above, to set the brew temperature, press the Set button on the front of the panel. Mains is house current. Between SSR and PID I was planning on using 22 awg wire given its a lower power requirement. PID temperature control kit for Gaggia Classic Pro 2018+, Classic & Home. This resulted in the PID not powering up even though the machine did. Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic See More by Auber Instruments 4.8 6 Reviews CA$285.00 Earn 855 Reward Points worth $8.55! If you have a 12v pid could you do everything as you have done except the mains wiring and instead wire the pid directly to an old phone wall charger for power? Is this typical? Your email address will not be published. Is it necessary to use a heat sink with the SSR installation? Posted by 2 years ago. I would be glad if you have any recommendations. However, at the cost of convenience, these kits can be relatively expensive. 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