I have a suspicion that much of the health and wealth teaching which is plaguing much of the church in Africa, Asia and South America is primarily an export from the US, with perhaps a little help from Europe, (all in the name of spreading the gospel). JOHN: When you go out the door, there's one for each of you. [38] He has delivered multiple sermons where he discusses these issues. But it takes a lot of hard work, time, and money to do what we do. In John MacArthur's book, "The Truth War" he writes that " Churches today are filled with people like that. I surrendered to a calling of God. To be really honest, I find it very difficult to muster up any Christian love for you when you respond to people in this way, though I do recognise that this is something I need Gods help with and forgiveness for. He teaches a completely restored Israel shall inherit physical ownership of the land of Canaan on the earth. (function(d){var f = d.getElementsByTagName('SCRIPT')[0], p = d.createElement('SCRIPT');p.type = 'text/javascript';p.async = true;p.src = '//widgets.wp.com/platform.js';f.parentNode.insertBefore(p,f);}(document)); on Elevation Church The Good, The Bad and the Ugly. Whatever its founding intentions, we conclude that the Proclamation Trust is now a compromised organisation committed to the flawed teachings and practices of New Calvinism. Timothy Nerozzi is a writer for Fox News Digital. As he walked across the stage July 26 to the large, wooden pulpit, the auditorium that seats 3,500 people was filled with non-masked, non-socially distanced conservative . Sorry David, we must be talking about different books. John MacArthur and the folks from Grace to You (GTY) have done the body of Christ a great service by continually warning Christianity against the growing dangers within the Charismatic movement. From an economic standpoint, thats a no brainer. So I was pleased to see the topic addressed here, particularly as there is another story breaking about Mr Furtick in North Carolina even as I write this. This is another attempt to pick a fight with another straw man. Cho discovered that Grace Community Church advised women to stay in abusive relationships and worked to have the church apologize for past mistakes. 1. [48][49], In February 2023 Christianity Today[50] published multiple instances of MacArthur's Grace Community church advising woman to stay with sexually and physically abusive husbands. Finally, I just checked my Amazon app and what do you know, the book I mentioned is still for sale at 3.50 and there are 8 copies left. So when I see money, resources and people being diverted into what appear to be personal vanity projects, branding and corporate Christianity, I weep, am angry and cry out to the Lord. One such person who has joined the ranks of GTY is Cameron Buettel, author . He argued at the time that such mandates violated constitutionally protected religious liberties. . Grace Community Church parishioners make their way to Sunday service in Sun Valley on Sept. 13, 2020. Mike no one is saying that a pastor should be poor. The trouble is that these churches are so massive and wealthy that they can afford to send their pastors all over the world, exporting their dodgy theology and even dodgier ecclesiology. John MacArthur was able to summarize Furtick as a minister with one word: unqualified. point taken). Im not sure though why I should apologise for my Amazon remarks? MacArthur has written three books on the subject. 1) You came on my blog page and accused Matt Chandler of not being a good example of how the gospel should be preached and lived. The news clip above catalogues the controversy about his $1.8 million new build house caused. I found helpful most of what he said and disagreed with a few things. He states, "You must receive Jesus Christ for who He is, both Lord and Savior, to be truly saved (2 Peter 2:20). The screenshot below is from page 4 of Elevation Church's helpful Spontaneous Baptism How To Guide. He argues that "the battle for the beginning is ultimately a battle between two mutually exclusive faiths faith in Scripture versus faith in anti-theistic hypotheses. You rightly speak out against the Scott McKennas of this world but you seem to have a blind spot where certain pastors are concerned. His message contained enough truth to make it seem plausible, but at heart it was man-centered. Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. You've successfully subscribed to this newsletter! Jenna . And I wasnt using any of the debating society tricks of tu quoque and ad hominem in anything that I said. As I trust that you would not deliberately bear false witness against me, can I ask that, in future, you read any comment very carefully before making such serious accusations? Your replies to G White were disgraceful and totally unwarranted, particularly in light of the respectful way he/she raised a perfectly justifiable concern. Your endorsement of Williams book which I have now read is indicative of that. I dont do stock answers. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. I stated that the danger comes from false teachers AND from those who allow the word of God to be compromised by turning a blind eye. Ive only just seen the comments you wrote yesterday, Sunday, and again today. He is a ministry collaborator with . The church that is spending $130 million on redoing its downtown campus? Its a sad fact that this nonsense is already here in Scotland supported by the new breed of self appointed apostles and prophets. Why shouldnt he? Your reply was typical of the kind of legalistic posts which I regularly get sent. But anyone who writes on my blog and brings such serious accusations is going to have to provide evidence, and you will be challenged. Can I assume that you are now withdrawing the remark about Matt Chandler not being a good example of how the gospel should be preached and lived? An unknown man clad in black confronted Grace Community Church pastor John MacArthur during service on Sunday, Aug. av. But cant we all recognize how difficult we find that? It is an appalling rant already and Ive only read the first couple of chapters. Then you will remember your evil ways and your wicked deeds, and you will loathe yourselves for your sins and detestable practices. Stay informed with the latest from CBN News delivered to your inbox. Pastor John MacArthur on Sunday commended GraceLife Church in Alberta, Canada, which is meeting in secret after the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) barricaded their building behind three layers of chain link fence. Is this success? Given that you were speaking in the context of my remarks about Chandler, your comments were clearly a warning about him and a warning that his teaching was like a slow growing cancer. I am happy though if you wish to withdraw your initial comments. Could you tell me the difference? For me there is no doubt that some of Scotlands independent churches and ministries, need to be investigated re their finances..question is who does it?. This is a really long post that deals almost exclusively, unfortunately, with secondary issues (church size, communications gifts, me focus, salary, wealth, size of house, and more) and thereby obscures the central and clarifying point of Furticks ministry. Help us continue to be a voice for truth in the media by supporting CBN News for as little as $1. Your email address will not be published. We are pleased to report that he is doing well," Grace Community Church wrote Monday on their website. issued his own declaration against the county, John MacArthur Warns Christians to Stop Making 'Alliances With Satan' in Remarks on Religious Liberty, Falsely Accused: John MacArthur's Grace Community Church 'Cleared of COVID-19 Outbreak', but Battle Rages On, 'It's Tyranny': Pastor MacArthur Will Get His Day in Court, Fighting CA Shutdown of Churches, Historic Win: John MacArthur Claims Victory in Lawsuit Over Church Restrictions, After Asbury Shutters Revival Services, Outpouring Moved to Lexington Arena: See Full Video Here, 'I Prayed in the Name of Jesus, and He Answered': Heroes Rescue 17,000 While 'Saving Aziz' in Afghanistan. As for Southern Baptists liking Donald Trump, its almost as bad as you liking Scottish Nationalism. You also muddied the waters by dropping in a juicy wee bit of gossip about a child sex abuse scandal. No-one can find out what Pastor Stephen is paid, although it is decided by a committee of out of town pastors/advisors (who are probably on the same arrangement). Not on Amazon it aint! Pastor John MacArthur preaches at Grace Community Church in Los Angeles. . 1) There is only One only speaks the truth and it aint Steven Furtick. The prominence of the pastor on the website, the Stephen Furtick ministries page, the common self-referrals and endless self-promotion of books/resources etc. [3] MacArthur has written or edited more than 150 books, most notably the MacArthur Study Bible, which has sold more than one million copies, receiving a Gold Medallion Book Award. (Note the attempted injection of humour!). And now I have to go and read his recommended book I hope its not as bad as the reviews suggest! This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. IN terms of his preaching we do disagree. He did not say Timothy Keller is an anti-Christian preacher. This was sourced through interviews with ex-Grace Community Church Elder Hohn Cho. ", MacArthur is married to his wife, Patricia. Cho resigned the next day. The Bad Sadly, whilst every church has the bad, because we are all sinners and therefore infect any structure or organization we are part of, there are sometimes churches that go much further and wander away to the extent that one can hardly call them a church at all. In your second post you again make the false claim that I set Dallas against Chandler. Last year, when far-reaching government restrictions were put in place, the megachurch continued holding indoor worship services despite bans on such gatherings. These views raised controversy within American evangelicalism and were challenged in print by non-lordship dispensationalist theologians Charles Ryrie and Zane C. Hodges, who argued that MacArthur's ministry was teaching a form of works-based salvation. Join Transformation church Sunday service at 11AM with Michael Todd, Live Stream (April-24-2022). I replied tongue in cheek and its unfortunate my smiley emo didnt indicate that. From 20052015, MacArthur made about $3.4 million in compensation from GTY and TMUS, for an average of about $320,000/year. Since then I have occasionally listened to a sermon, read articles and heard news programes, and watched as this Southern Baptist church has grown to a reported 20,000 plus. ", "New Covenant Theology Compared With Covenantalism", "Why Every Calvinist Should Be a Premillennialist, Part 1", "Megapastor John MacArthur says 'no one is gay', compares homosexuality to adultery", "L.A. megachurch pastor mocks pandemic health orders, even as church members fall ill", "Fact Check-CDC comorbidity figures presented in sermon do not undermine deadliness of COVID-19", "L.A. County could pay $400,000 settlement to church that fought COVID-19 mandates", "John MacArthur and Grace Community Church win $800,000 settlement from California and L.A. County", https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2023/february/grace-community-church-elder-biblical-counseling-abuse.html, "Questions and Answers -- Patricia MacArthur", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_MacArthur_(American_pastor)&oldid=1142238580, This page was last edited on 1 March 2023, at 07:45. People make millions selling sex, playing sports and funny you never hear the news say that is wrong. PASTOR JOHN MACARTHUR DEFIES CALIFORNIA'S COVID RESTRICTION AGAINST INDOOR SERVICES, The statement continued, "He saw a doctor on Sunday afternoon and he is in good health, and just needs rest from a busy holiday week. John MacArthur Takes on the New Apostolic Reformation & Rick Perry's Prayer Event This is a portion of the transcript from John MacArthur's sermon from October 23, 2011 . However, Chandler did choose to turn a blind eye to the unbiblical teaching and behaviour of Mark Driscoll, as did Piper and Keller. How easily the lure of money and outward success can lead a good man astray, and sadly take with him many people. as there are with me. I follow the goings-on of the mega church para church neocalvinist movement (call it what you will) in the USA and am frequently astounded by their antics. If you stop and think about what you have written you will I hope grasp what is wrong with it. Despite the considerable influence that they all had, they chose instead to publically endorse him. The trouble is that because they have the money, the media and the power, they are able to have an influence far beyond their spiritual authority and gifts. (Ezek. Furtick preaches a different gospel. Los Angeles County had sued the church and its pastor, John MacArthur, last August after officials said he had he opened the church and held a large indoor worship service with unmasked attendees . Yes, some of it is biblical and Furtick is a good communicator, amusing, connected etc.but a great deal appears to pay only passing lip service to the Bible. It is the Bible watered down by a mixture of Waltonesque homespun wisdom, pop psychology, stand up comedy and an unhealthy doze of how to missiology. The southern baptist convention of which he has been a part has distanced themselves from his ministry in the past year. [15], Nearly 43 years after beginning in the pulpit of Grace Community, MacArthur completed one of his own life goals,[2] that of preaching through the entire New Testament on June 5, 2011. In 1960, after a year off, he was accepted to the Free Methodist Churchs Los Angeles Pacific College, where in his senior year he observed two games of football, going on field once for one play (see 1962 yearbook statistics). He is a ministry collaborator with TDJakes health and wealth and modalist ministry, he collaborates with Joel Osteens humanistic ministry and with Brian Hustons new wave prophecy ministry. So for me this is not about petty jealousies, nor anti-Americanisms, nor cheap shots at other peoples foibles in order to make me feel better. Cool name, cool Church I knew that it was one of the fastest growing mega churches in the USA, and had heard a little of its pastor, the dynamic Stephen Furtick. G White I am really sorry to read your last reply. They do things right. I repeat again that I am aware of the failings of the mega church system and celebrity pastors. PS Im a huge Chandler fan over here. I have reread the comments by G Whiteand my own responses. I didnt even mention Chandler in my comment, let alone call him a false teacher (and have never done so). ", Grace Community Church parishioners make their way to Sunday service in Sun Valley on Sept. 13, 2020. 4) Its also not a good idea to claim that you know the motives of someone you dont know. My own view is that he didnt handle it particularly well even when forced to act. [9] In 1963, he was granted a Masters of Divinity from the Bible Institute of Los Angeles's new Talbot Theological Seminary, in La Mirada, California, with honors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3BN1lStbIw. He picked out three words from Joshua 10, 12 (Sun stand still) and turned them into a doctrine, and he peppered his performance with occasional biblical quotes to back it up. It appears this lawsuit is going in our favor, MacArthur said Sunday. This is way more than urging caution, as you later suggested. The elders had publicly disciplined a woman for refusing . I was not picking on one church: you offered Matt Chandler as an example of how mega churches get it right and I was replying to that by urging caution. We welcome another new contributor, Edward Benitez, as he biblically critiques a sermon given by Steven Furtick. The preacher's admission came amid news that Grace Community Church in Sun Valley received an $800,000 settlement from Los Angeles County after defying pandemic-induced health orders. Has First Dallas never handled any controversy or discipline case wrong? | Screenshot: YouTube/Grace to You Prominent pastor and theologian John MacArthur has come under fire after a video resurfaced of him taking issue with the idea of "religious freedom," with some Christian speakers debating whether his comments were taken out of context. John MacArthur Responds to 2021 Julie Roys (Part One) - YouTube #pastorjohnmacarthur#johnmacarthur #gracecommunitychurch#julieroys This sermon clip is from Grace to You, it is on 1 Timothy. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. Find a Church . Grace Community Church, home to pastor-teacher John MacArthur, is located in Sun Valley, California and has been faithfully proclaiming God's Word since 1956. John MacArthur, pastor of the popular Grace Community megachurch, is recovering from a sudden onset of illness. My point was that its not only out and out heretics, such as McKenna, who are a danger to the church. Chandler, a Reformed evangelical pastor, spoke as a guest speaker at Elevation last Friday, the third night of the Code Orange Revival. I d not think there is any man alive especially a young man who could cope with this degree of adulation and not have his head explode with pride. I have no idea if you are particularly legalistic or not but the type of comments you were making, most certainly are. to this article here https://theweeflea.com/2020/04/22/return-to-elevation/). In fact it was so bad most people assumed it was just mockers cutting and pasting to make it look ridiculous yet it turns out that this was Elevation Churches own video and it was liked by Furtick! Elevation Church's revival is seeing some theological controversy. A point you also mentioned. I am intrigued as to why you think my challenge to the claim is disgraceful and totally unwarranted, but you dont think the claim itself is? Purpose doesnt have a parking spot is no substitute for many are the plans in a mans heart but it is the Lords purpose that prevails. MacArthur, 83, was preaching Sunday service earlier this week when he. Help us continue to be a voice for truth in the media by supporting CBN News for as little as $1. yes it was dishonest of you to misrepresent my position as some pastors are untouchable. Given that is neither what I wrote, nor what I think. 2. Outwith a Southern US culture it makes no sense and Im not sure that for many of my Southern friends it makes any sense either. (At this point I am of course aware of the same danger for myself and it certainly does act as a warning to me! More here: https://mrayton.wordpress.com/tag/john-macarthur/, Thanks very helpfulalthough I think that the money and the me focus are a key part of the false teaching. As a southern Christian (in North Carolina), Im truly thankful you posted one of Alistair Beggs videos to show the contrast between Truth presented with integrity and intellegence, and the slick mass market Charlotte speed preaching thats become hip with mega church crowds. To be sure he writes from a certain perspective, as you do, but he presented his case quite calmly using documented and verifiable evidence. But like John Flavel I regard as a pretty close second the threat of disunity in the body of Christ not least that caused by those who go around unjustly and wrongly accusing others of false teaching. 2023 The Christian Broadcasting Network, Inc., A nonprofit 501 (c)(3) Charitable Organization. New Calvinism quenches that desire, and true dedication to a distinctive Christian life.. I kind of dreaded this type of response. It is indeed a blessto have a fellowship with God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit and indeed the Lord reigns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=vvjMUrPUfC4&app=desktop. You said he was a great example, I urged caution and pointed to a recent event where he and his church had attracted adverse publicity because of how they handled a particular incident. You can follow him on Twitter @timothynerozzi and can email him at timothy.nerozzi@fox.com, Get all the stories you need-to-know from the most powerful name in news delivered first thing every morning to your inbox. [18] He believes that scripture is inerrant and infallible because it is "the Word of God" and that God cannot lie. But, thank God, I have been able to study the bible for 50 years and, although I acknowledge that I have probably only scratched the surface of the riches of His grace, I do not recognise Furticks message as balanced and biblical. Because Elevation Church certainly dont want to. The Church of England's compromise on same-sex relationships is disastrous for everyone. Im afraid that you are talking about something you do not really know about and picking on one particular church why? This has become an increasing generational divide, where self help and selfishness mixed with weird legalism has been manufactured, packaged, and sold as faith. Just to settle this bit of your disagreement: http://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Calvinists-ES-Williams/dp/1908919329/, Wonderful thanksnow I can read it on my KindleI have no idea why that did not show on my Amazon page. Im afraid that the influence of the US mega churches such as Elevation is felt throughout the world. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. [47] In August 2021, MacArthur told congregants that "many people" had contracted COVID-19 while it "went through" the church in December 2020 and January 2021, including both him and his wife. As it happens I was sent this video by someone who was praising it.it is more like a political rally (complete with clapping) than a Christian sermon the misuse of Scripture about borders is bad enough but the approving citation of Donald Trump Is it time to start bombing the you know what out of ISIS (that is a biblical response) was appalling. Have mercy! Fox News Flash top headlines are here. Rather than ignoring these churches and individuals Scotlands born again believers need to stand up and contend for the faith. Its wrong to mock and you should try to win them over without mockery. Marantha! Each person will answer to God for themselves. It never occurs to me for a second to not fulfill it. [6] During a 1979 interview, Pastor MacArthur stated he is "distantly related to General Douglas MacArthur." If he has lots of money good for him, if he has a nice home- good for him. Furtick though is unapologetic..he boasted in a sermon all the proceeds go to feed hungry children..mine!. Its only your perception and I would deny it. During the event, MacArthur accused the Southern Baptist Convention of . lq mk Elevation began as a Southern Baptist church in Charlotte, North Carolina in 2006. ck. I hear the anti christ will also be a great orator and just as charismatic. It does say that if you are not careful many with money err from the faith and it also says the LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all evil, NOT MONEY ITSELF. Follow TheWeeFlea.com on WordPress.com I'm a bank robber."[41]. As for ES Williams book yes I have heard of it and read several reviews -Im afraid I wont be spending the 30 on a book which just seems to want to attack and tar everyone with the same brush. And that is not only my perception if you look at the comments above. I have not misrepresented what you said. I've carried one of these of an NAS with the New Testament, Psalms, and Proverbs with me for years and years, so that's why I wanted this to be the first one. Opinion Page Brooks and David Bumgardner Hell is not something to be used as a curse word it is real. Sadly, however, there are also times when you use it to bully, abuse and browbeat. It is quite shocking. Finally that book! Whites equation of Chandler with Furtick being one such example, your comparison of Matt Chandler with Scott McKenna being another. I think putting Chandler in the same category as Furtick is disgraceful and totally unwarranted and thus simply ask G White to justify that. [36] Speaking about evolutionary theory, he writes that Christians "ought to expose such lies for what they are and oppose them vigorously." Chandler only eventually took action as the wheels were about to fall off the Mars Hill bus and, sadly, only when great damage had already been done to the body of Christ. To this end he cites the biblical passage of 1 Timothy 2:11-12. Im sure with a church of such a size these issues are found amongst some, and appropriate discipline and loving correction are needed. As for your other points, Matt Chandlers church eventually acted only after a number of Christian magazines and websites had highlighted their initial inaction. http://religionnews.com/2016/05/11/why-pastor-steven-furtick-skirts-scandalous-questions/. Earlier this year his church was embroiled in a scandal over their handling of a child sexual abuse case. I know the drill. Thanks for this. What if Joh MacArthur preached at Steven Furtick's church?Christian Music is Destroying Millions?great worship and sound doctrine.What's wrong with Elevation. Market data provided by Factset. Submitted by escamp on August 31, 2015 - 3:04pm. Ironically tu quoque was what you were using about Chandler (as well as ad hom). what evidence do you have for that?). And what is your position, from Scripture, on the subject? The remarks immediately following that statement seem to suggest that you are and illustrate the way in which you denigrate those with whom you disagree. 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