at the muzzle. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. Mag. It will never be as popular as a 6.5PRC or 28nosler, but it has a purpose. These bullets are super tempting to run at 3200+. might not sound like a big deal until you start maneuvering it in and out of cases, trucks, scabbards, and forests. Mine has a 30 Rock Creek. If you go with a hot 7mm, get one with a fairly heavy barrel contour. How bout building a 280AI. The LRM feeds perfectly, much better than the SAUM. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Running 8twist Proof 168s run flat, 5.2mils the other morning at 912y. Another indicates 74-grains of Hodgdon 870 will churn up 2,954 fps. Yes, the .28 Nosler wins the ballistic competition with the RUM right on its heels. I used to shoot 154gr hornady interbonds at 3750 and latest was not to push over 3400. The resulting reservoir holds 77 grains of water with a 175-grain bullet seated to Over-All Cartridge Length (measured base to tip of bullet.). 7mm RemMag. ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass. Barrel life is always a concern with maximum velocity, so-called overbore cartridges. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Have a 6.5 PRC and currently building a 7 SAUM. If its a hunting rifle does it really matter? fire forming and case prep amounts to chamfer, add primer, powder and bullet to ADG 7 MAX brass and pull the trigger. It does have a dark side, though. My thinking was that good ol' 7mm RM. It is intended for long-range shooting due to its ability to utilize high BC bullets, and is also uniquely suited for hunting large animals such as elk. You are using an out of date browser. Mag. Still, recoil is lower and ammo/components are cheaper and easier to find. Trustpilot. I think the 7saum is here to stay. And with RL33 hes getting 3140 fps (pretty easily), using Retumbo (for it's temp stability) drops it about 75 fps. Vintersalg: Opptil 60 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr Neither caught on, but American shooters were certainly beginning to recognize the potential for 7mm cartridges. .672., MV 2,900 fps. 7mm PRC vs 28 Nosler The 28 Nosler shoots at faster muzzle velocities, but is an overbore cartridge that requires a very long chamber, with the Hornady hype behind the 7mm PRC, brass and ammo should be much more readily available soon enough. My vote would be for the 7 saum. They sharpened the shoulder angle. 92 grs. These drawings will be incorporated during the next revision of the relevant SAAMI Standard. Just 5 inches of drop at 400 yards and 6.8 inches of wind deflection. It's no surprise then that the 7mm Weatherby held the title "World's Fastest 7mm" until the 28 Nosler appeared. If you're only going to be shooting 160's, I think the regular 7 Rem Mag would definitely be a more economical choice. Hper du kan nyte shoppingen din her! I have a 28 nosler, and love it, but I wanted the extra 200 FPS from hand . Nonetheless, it's nice to have options Having so many options these days is a double edged sword. The .28 Nosler of 2015 was their solution. $89.95. They straightened the sidewalls. I didnt have any problems finding reloading supplies. I was tired of lugging the heavy, long, and heavy recoiling 30s around, but wanted more punch than my lighter 6.5CM. The 180's will work with a 9 nit the bigger bullets will have a decided edge in the wind. If you want 7mm magnum performance, youll have to change tires (barrels) now and then. This friction-free bullet jump allows it to break inertia more easily. The Hodgdon technicians used Winchester cases and primers to develop their loads, and they were chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. Just FYI before going 7-330NM, check out Long Range Hunting, there is a real long thread on there about the 28 Nosler with the 195 Bergers, just google it. That was the 7x57mm re-branded for the non-metric British Rigby rifle. bullet have what it takes for hunting anything short of dangerous game. Nosler really hampered the performance of that round with the 3.340" COAL length. The 180 Berger VLD was my choice for terminal performance. 28 nosler is a great case, barrel burner, but if you're looking for say 3000fps w/ 195 at lower pressure, use H1000 or Retumbo, adg/gunwerks brass, and the brass will last you forever, take care the barrel and it may go 1000 rounds. . Muzzle energy means the energy of the bullet at the time of leaving the gun. These are some impressive numbers. Just $1 per month , The old 7mm Rem. Buy Now. I go back and forth in my head 1000 times on choices, then I will decide on what I know that I want, then I'll see something else and go back to the drawing board. I have a 6.5 saum that is my go to long range coues rifle and it is my favorite rifle but not my first choice for an elk cartridge. Just have the barrel throated so you can load those big pills way out there, to make room for more powder. 195s topped out @ 2950 w/ N570 using a drop tube to fit powder, that primer pocket was loose after. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. I have hunted with a 7mm Rem Mag and a 7mmSTW. landed with a splash big enough to drench every deer/elk cartridge in North America. Trustpilot. 8tw 195 or maybe the new 190 atips. One of the draws to the 7 SAUM is the availability of high-quality brass through companies like Norma and ADG. Before this barrel I had a 7 SAUM and I wasn't happy with how it fed from the DTA magazines. He is having adg make brass for him, its head stamped and the neck diameter and length are correct for his design, will still need to be fire formed. You say it's long action. First, thanks to OP for starting this Thread and to everyone for posting. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Now I am waffling between the 6.5x284 Norma and the 300 PRC. Trustpilot. The 28N is very similar to the 7 STW. I suspect the Sherman cases are all running between 70-80k psi on the upper end. Now lets check out the 7mm RUM. Essentially, 7mm PRC rifles will be manufactured with match-grade chambers. bullets, but not the longest and certainly not such long numbers as Hornadys 180-gr. You want 98.2 grains water capacity behind a seated 175-grain bullet? Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUMa shoot-off to find the best, By Compared to the ballistics of the new Rem. The 175/180 class Bullets sneaking along (1/4 MOA) at 2950-ish give or take, certainly not to par with the newer selections. Three quid k shots can overheat a thin barrel and turn a 1 MOA rifle into a 2 MOA. It may not display this or other websites correctly. from all the adds for the nosler 28, they have the data on the 7 rum dumber down to make them look better. bullets far, far downrange with minimal wind deflection and maximal accuracy. Thoughts on a 22 or 23 Barrel in 7mm Rem Mag? Amazing bc too for the weight. For Connaught we moved to 7mm SAUMs and in preparation of going to that FCWC I got . Im in the market to start a new build. Both cartridges were designed to work through short action rifles. Versitile and with the right twist rate can really launch some High BC pills out there. include more options in rifles and ammo, more accessible and less expensive ammo, less recoil, a potentially shorter, handier, lighter rifle, and longer barrel life. $120.95. #7mm #longrangeshooting #extremelongrange You see a 7mag throated with 250 freebore and adg brass can do all of this. And more recoil. $120.95. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. It may not display this or other websites correctly. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data. Like you said though, it's pretty tough to go wrong. The additional reach is tempting, but Id pay the price with a 26-inch, fairly heavy barrel. This is Not a New Thing. Trustpilot. Despite all this powder volume, reloading guides all indicate the 7mm RUM tops out at around 3,150 fps with a 26-inch barrel, slightly slower than the .28 Nosler. #1 Postby Marty Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:38 am. The most common comparison is 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag, because they're both popular in North America and are kissing cousins as far as bullet diameter goes. ADG 30 Nosler Brass. Although, the 28 Nosler is an awesome cartridge. He's loading the 195's to something like 3.730" COAL, well past SAAMI specs. According to SAAMI specs, instrumental velocity of the 7mm PRC is 2,950 fps when driving a 180-grain bullet. So how do you choose among these three? Just picked up a tikka for a donor build for a lightweight 6.5 PRC or 7mm SAUM. A bigger concern might be barrel heating and subsequent wandering. Thin barrels tend to distort slightly with heat, opening up groups. Following since I want to do the exact same thing. Typical 140- to 175-grain, .284 slugs are wide enough to resist bending (a problem Bell had with tough, thick elephant bones) yet narrow enough to minimize drag. More significant are the chamber dimensions, which are tighter than those of most traditional, 20th century hunting cartridges. Pros and Cons of the 7mm PRC 12 Gauge 1". | Or just step up to the 7 SAUM and run 180s if you want more weight. Handloaders can take advantage of all these, but most commercial ammunition features 120-grain to 178-grain bullets. Im going to run a tikka action/stock trigger with spring upgrade with a 22in carbon barrel and a light weight scope. I neither believe in this minimum nor in shooting elk at 700 yards, but this is impressive performance for a standard-length cartridge nearing its 60th birthday. Remington claims that the ballistics of the 7mm SAUM equal those of the popular 7mm Rem. Links to technical data and drawings for the newly SAAMI accepted Cartridge and Chamber designs not yet included in SAAMI Standards are listed below. The 28 isn't blowing the doors of the MAX. I can't tell you how many cartridge choices I've settled on, only to change my mind again and again. without laser assistance. I think if I was buying a hunting rifle, and just wanted to keep a few high quality boxes of factory ammo around, the I would go 7Rm. Buy Now. For you guys that have had both with do you prefer. Mag. Since this rifle will be used sparingly maybe I can afford to go with something a little harder on the barrel. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr . When in doubt, pull the 338 out! Recoil of a 9# Rem. I did shoot a black bear years ago with a 140gr Sierra, ugly. and if you cant draw any tags, youd got a target rifle to tide you over. What was your 28 Nosler load with 180s at 3080? Mag. Engineers made three modifications that ensured popularity: they shortened the case to fit standard-length actions. And that means more powder. Hodgdon reloading data for the 7mm WSM shows that the 140 grain Nosler Partition spitzer bullet can be driven to a MV of 2979 fps in front of 58.0 grains of H4350 powder. ABLR in the 28 Nosler. Im shooting a 7 stw 1 in 8 twist ( ballistic twin to 28 nosler ) 190's at 3005 fps, and the 195's at 2985 fps both with under .5 moa accuracy. Just FYI before going 7-330NM, check out Long Range Hunting, there is a real long thread on there about the 28 Nosler with the 195 Bergers, just google it. factory 7mm Rem. Newer calibers tend to fade quickly these days. First, the 7mm Rem Mag and 28 Nosler use larger diameter bullets than the 6.8 Western. Had same dilemma, went with 7RM because even during the great Obama ammo shortage you could always find 7RM ammo. Recreational and practical applications abound with these .22 caliber handguns. Worth considering. To get this Hornady went to its usual bag of tricks: The new, updated Remington M700 standard length action rifles handled the Hornady 7mm PRC 180-gr. The rim of the RUM was already rebated to fit a .534-inch bolt face. for my brand of hunting. Was tempted to do a 270 WSM with 170 EOLs. The structure of the material reveals the hardness. Which one would you choose and why? With a 160 grain bullet the Winchester figures are 2990 fps and 3176 ft. lbs. Creedmoor Sports $ 86.95 . You must log in or register to reply here. 7 saum and 7 rem mag seem like good compromises. Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. And most of the recent data for the rum is also on the weak side. I like the 6.5 PRC because I think ammo/brass will have more staying power where the 7mm SAUM is all but obsolete (don't stone me for that). I was looking at a 7-300 win, 7-300NM, and a few others. This is a long-range dream cartridge for sure. The 7 SAUM offers better performance than the 300 Win Mag in a package that is almost as small as the 6.5 Creedmoor. Interesting. Mag., 270 Winchester, 30-06 Springfield, and 300 H&H Magnum looked all but washed up. 28 Nosler offers excellent performance but brass is spendy and availability is hit or miss . I have a variety of options on this, as I am planning to do this on a DTA, for which I have both .535 and .585 bolts, and the DTA mags are pretty generous in regard to OAL. All Rights Reserved. Check out the 10 mph right-angle wind deflection at 400 yards: just 7.82 inches. Im sure Remington engineers started with the .300 H&H case, but it was itself a modification of the .375, so same difference. HOWEVER, I don't follow the logic of having to use a 26" barrel if you go the Nosler route. 6.5 PRC or .28 Nosler. YMMV . My conclusion: if you already own any 7mm magnum for hunting, (7mm WSM, 7mm SAUM, 7mm RM, 7mm LRM, 7mm STW, 7mm Wby. More obscure were the 7mm Gibbs and the Norma-loaded 7x61mm Sharpe & Hart in the early 1950s. Just cant decide what billets and powder to run. One of the most prominent differences between the two is that the 28 Nosler fires a bullet diameter of 7mm or 0.284" while the 300 PRC fires the . And at sensible hunting distances even a basic MPBR hunter should have find more than 90 percent of his shooting opportunities covered by the Rem Mag. We're doing break in on it tomorrow. 7mm Rem. $ 87.00 - $ 145.00. John makes custom dies not just what is listed. Retained mass helps maintain momentum. . I would go 7 LRM if it wasn't for the Hornady brass . I wish there was more 7SAUM options, I feel there's a gap in the market. Great availability of components and above all a barrel that will last 1500+ when used like a hunting rifle and cared for. bullet wins the wind deflection category. It only makes sense, case with 8gr less capacity out running the bigger case, it's because of pressure, and lots of it. The 28 is not going to be but about 25-50 FPS faster and it makes little difference. The maximum load for that bullet is 61.5 grains of H4350 powder, which yields a MV of 3133 fps at a chamber pressure of 61,900 psi. Has 260 rounds on it so its fully sped up. Id be set for all North American game plus African plains game right up to 1,800-pound eland. . Lots of hiking, backpacking, climbing, shooting to 450 yards, maybe 500 yards. Mid-size 7mm cartridges like 7x57 Mauser, 7mm-08 Rem., 284 Win., and 280 Rem. Copyright 2004, 2013 by Chuck Hawks. Also note that some guys are reporting pressure issues at speeds other are reporting work with the 28. Actually just today finally found a Redding type s die seton stock. As the .30-06 Springfield has a .473 case head and uses the .470 +/- bolt face, any cartridges list on the above two bolt face diameter and action length database charts above, that also use the .470 +/- bolt face, and have a COAL of 3.34 or shorter, will work with .30-06 actions. Pros, cons of both and reasons why. Using new brass, like Lapua brass, when reloading allows you complete control over the finished cartridge. To help you understand the flow of energy, check out the chart-. Which action are you using and what barrel length? It's often put head-to-head with other popular calibers like the 7mm Rem. Thats fast enough to handle most 175-gr. Thanks. Of course, you can exactly match 7mm ballistics with a .308 bullet if BC and MV are identical. Note: A full length article about the 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem. In older reloading books for the 7 rum is its hauling a$$ compared current data. I have both the 300 and 7mm SAUM, the 300 is on a model 7 action and the 7mm a standard 700SA. Mag. Should be 7.5lbs scoped or so. This is not a rifle you want to weave through dog-hair timber. ADG makes 28 nosler brass for a great option. I set my dies to headspace off the shoulder and forget about the belt. For really light and a short action if you reload 7 saum. Mag., 7mm RUM, 28 Nosler,) you dont need a 7 PRC. Anyone looking for really good dies call Whiddon and have them made. Considering the production by Hornady of 6.5 GAP 4S cases, the next logical step appeared to be ammunition coming off the line in Grand Island, Nebraska. Well, i was leaning towards the 28 Nosler, but now I'm seriously considering the 7mm RM. Instead, the Hornady-developed RCM case was used to produce the 6.5 PRC. ADG 300 Norma Magnum Brass. However I am still using H4831, and I bet with VV N 570 or RL26 I could pass those speeds easily. In the past, running 284 Win (reaching back to Raton, 2013), I would have said that (for me at least) a rechamber would be in order for a straight 284 around the 2000 round mark. This compromise should account for the slower muzzle velocities many rifles produce with factory loads and safe handloads. I also kicked around the idea of 7max, but can always go that route later. Case has a good balance of capacity for the bullets I tested (180'd and 195's) Plenty of usable powder options. Straight on shot into chest between the legs at about 50 yds. Meanwhile, over in Africa a Scottish commercial ivory hunter named Bell was making the little 7x57mm famous as a BIG big game round by dropping some 800 elephants with it. The 28 Nosler is also loaded to a slightly higher pressure than the 300 Win Mag (65,000psi vs 64,000psi). Reloading the 28 is also not inexpensive. Running a 7mm like others velocities are really easily to get. The 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge is a long-action centerfire rifle cartridge designed to shoot 180 grain bullets at 2,950 fps. (Aim for center and bullet will not rise more than 5 inches nor fall more than 5 inches within the MPBR. A barrel shot out for target competition might remain more than accurate enough for big game hunting. I'm not too familiar with the 7LRM, but I'm having a 28 Nosler built for hunting. Metallic Reloading Rifle Brass Rifle Brass Rifle brass is made for almost every conceivable cartridge, from 223 brass and 308 brass to older offerings like 30-40 Krag brass and even one of the newest, 6.5 Creedmoor brass. My Saum is on a med length action and was a full tilt everything I wanted build. ADG 300 . I'm worried bout the need of a 26" barrel for the Nosler, and hoping to get away with a 24" since I'm trying to run an Ultra 7 with it. $94.95 $79.95. 7rm for me. I would go 7 LRM if it wasn't for the Hornady brass . Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Diver160651 Who cares. Nosler AccuBond Long Range. The Nosler loads were developed in Remington cases with Remington primers, and chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. Going super light though might make the 280 ai another good choice. We are now conversant in 6mm, 6.5mm, 7.62mm and especially 7mm. 7mm brass is simple to find and the caliber is an absolute hammer on deer/elk. at the muzzle. Your results may vary. I run the Berger 180 hybrids at 2900 in my 280 ackley with no pressure signs. rifles. Almost overnight the seven em em was on the lips of American hunters. Another vote for 7 rem mag. The parent cartridge is a shortened 7mm Remington Ultra Mag. 8.7 twist 5R and 180 JLKs couldnt consistently make it to 100 past 3Kfps. Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . For perspective, this is 75 fps faster than most 175-gr. I would expect the 300 PRC to mirror the performance. It may not display this or other websites correctly. ADG 300 PRC Brass. JavaScript is disabled. Additionally you can tune your load so accuracy difference go out the window. load hitting 2,970 fps and a 28 Nosler hitting 3211fps with the same bullet. Mag., the 264 Win. Overall cartridge length of the 7mm RUM is 3.6 inches, right there with a .375 H&H Magnum. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. rick smith. Given the same basic form and muzzle velocity (MV), a 180-grain, .284 bullet will fly flatter, drift less, and retain more energy downrange than a 180-grain .308 bullet . Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr The 7mm SAUM is an ideal cartridge for long-range competition and long-range hunting. New member question. Qty: Add to cart . Another vote for 280ai if building a light weight hunt rig all the horsepower needed close to 7rm but standard action with room for an extra round. How does the 280 AI do with 180 grain bullets compared to the 7mm SAUM? Clearly the 7mm Rem. Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box N N2TRKYS Well-Known Member Joined In order to obtain that performance from a .30 caliber, I would need to jump into the .300 Win. Instead they seem to be shooting for the ideal balance among MV, tolerable recoil, wind deflection, and precision accuracy. ADG 300 Rem Ultra Mag Brass. Teddy Roosevelt was so impressed that he used the 757 as a basis for what became the .30-06 Springfield. Most hunters who resist target practice can get a lifetime of good accuracy out of these 7mms. Clearly Hornady wasnt trying to break any speed records with the 7 PRC. If you want a shorter barrel, look into the 7 SAUM, 7 RM and even the 7-08 , they'll all get it done nicely. His bolt-action rifle was chambered for the confusing .275 Rigby. But they didnt shorten anything. Improving 7mm Rem. The factory offerings for ammo hold no weight with me, but that probably plays a role in many people's decisions. Want to do 24-26 barrel. Arbeidstid: 08.00-16.00mandag til fredagVi vil svare deg innen 48-72 timer. Full comparison of the 28 Nosler and the 7mm rum " Remington Ultra Mag" 2 big 7mm magnums that are very comparable. If you dont own a 7mm of any kind and want one strictly for hunting, you might as well get the PRC version. Looking at going with the 7mag or 28 nosler. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. The 404 Jeffery sired the majority of Nosler's cartridge line, namely the 30 Nosler, 26 Nosler, and 33 Nosler as well as other cartridges like the 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum (SAUM). Som en stor omfattende nettbutikk er hjemsol forpliktet til hjelpe deg med skape et stt liv med vre utskte produkter. During processing the large, soft grains are broken down into smaller ones, which makes for a harder material. ADG 7mm Rem Mag Brass. SAUM can be found on the . RDF, or Bergers 190-gr. All rights reserved. Hornadys 7mm PRC with its high B.C. Mine shoots factory 160 class ammo at 1/2 MOA (5 & 10 shot groups) in the mid 2900s with SD in the mid teens. ammo. This calls for a light rifle. Carefully spaced shots (dont overheat the barrel) always extend life, as does each shooters accuracy demands. With a 28" I got 2950~2975 with a 195 and 3150 with a 180. You can drive 10 mph and get thousands and thousands more miles out of your tires, but wouldnt you rather drive highway speed? And it will likely penetrate farther because more of its mass rides in the long shank behind its nose. Im thinking Id run Berger 168 or 180 in SAUM and 140 or 156 in PRC. It is simply the 7mm SAUM case necked down. I'm pushing the 175 eldx at 3005 fps, with excellent case life (10+ reloads). In 1962 the 7mm Rem. Again, both seen like great options but I want this to be a hunting rig, as I've got a rifle for shooting steel. While testing some upgraded M700 Remington rifles at FTW Ranch last summer, I simultaneously test drove the pre-release 7mm PRC from Hornady. And heres the same 175-gr. ELD-Match zeroed for MPBR on a 6-inch target zone. Buy Now. Supporter. gavevare til innvarming, bryllup, bursdager og alle anledninger. The SAUM will be built on a long action. Guys report great brass life with belted cases. These claims are valid if the short magnum cartridges are fired in 24 inch barrels, the same length as the barrels of most 7mm Rem. That's what I would do unless you have to have something much faster. It will shoot as fast as a 7mm SAUM and brass is easy to find. 224 Valkyrie. and a high B.C. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. The first question you have to ask when designing a new cartridge is, "WHY?" The 7LRM (Long Range Magnum) is a non-belted case that has the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag with a standard magnum case head. A .208 AI would be about the same as the .284 Win loaded right. By 1,000 yards the PRC has nearly a 2-foot drop advantage and 14-inch windage advantage. runs at 2940 fps and the .280 AI runs at 2850 fps). I wanted an every day backpacking Coues rifle that could do sheep, bears, caribou, goats and the occasional backpacking elk hunt if needed. Said barrels will also be throated long enough for seating such bullets above the powder reservoir. Barrels are like truck tires. The lighter, shorter 7mm bullets are preferred in these short case magnums. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. Then Remington blew the doors wide open with their new 7mm magnum chambered in their equally new and affordable M700 rifles. Remington claims a MV of 3175 fps and ME of 3133 ft. lbs. You might think Remington started the 7mm cartridge trend in 1962 with its famous 7mm Remington Magnum, but by then the 7mm Mauser was already well known. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The 280AI is a great cartridge, as is the plain old 280 Remington. I think the 7saum is here to stay. And thats part of the reason 7mms are so popular. The 7max performance that Rich advertises is somewhat inflated and HOT loadings. 7 saum 7 rem mag 7 ultra mag 28 nosler The 284 and 280 appeal to me for lower cost (components and barrel life), but they are the slowest. 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